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Richard Dawkins väitles uskliku teadlase John Lennoxiga.

Lennox: "The fact, that... the claim of Christ to be the truth, to be God incarnate, that makes perfect sense to me, because if there is a God who invented this wonderful, marvellous universe with all its science and all the rest... then he has taken the initiative in getting to know us, revealing himself to us. And he's revealed himself to us, at a level we can understand. We are persons, he's a person. That at least makes sense. So one of the very important questions to ask, is: is that really true? Is this simply myth and fantasy?"

Dawkins naeratab kergelt: "Well, myth and fantasy for me."

Naer saalis.

Lennox: "I find myself in a world which is a broken world. I find myself in a world where there is massive injustice. But if there is no God, then there is no ultimate justice. And one of the things that the resurrection transforms for me, is if this is true, then there's real hope that there'll be a rational evaluation and fair justice at the end of the world, but atheism doesn't give you that."

Dawkins: "Okay, suppose there is no hope, suppose there is no justice. Suppose there's nothing but misery and darkness and bleakness. Suppose that there is nothing we would wish for, nothing we would hope for. Too bad! That doesn't make it true, just because God would make us feel good."

Lennox: "Well, of course it doesn't."

Dawkins: "Well, then why are you making that argument?"